What Do You All Think of The Constant Dolpas and Limiteds?

[saranilla]

I was just wondering this the other day. Now I want to make it clear that I am not picking apart any doll company, I just want to get everyone's feelings. It seems lately, especially with Volks that everytime you turn around they are having another Dolpa which in turn creates an After Event, which also creates After Event clothing. Then on top of that you also have the June, July, September collections. *_* It just seems like my wallet never gets a chance to heal anymore.

Luts seems to be doing the same thing although they do not have Dolpas. I also see that the Chinese companies are also starting limiteds. My worry is that are they all now saturating the market. I mean seriously we all have a certain limit we hit, we all don't have a bottomless wallet.

The minute I get one outfit or doll paid for up comes the next. It seems a lot of people are turning around and selling off a doll they have had for a very short time in order to replace him/her with another new "limited".

It just makes me wonder if this is not some of the reason for the dip in the doll resale market. The new dolls that are from the most recent Dolpa or Limited sales sit for days with no interest and are generally split up since it is the easiest way to sell them. And with the limited clothing some items are snapped up and others noone touches.

Right now I am at the point that I am so "Doll Saturated" that I can't even think of one that interests me. This feels like the first time that I am actually able to take a deep breath and slow down in my purchases. Does anyone else have this feeling or am I the only one???

[julia]

I've been thinking about this lately too. It seems like everytime you turn around another new doll has been released. On the one hand I think it's great that there are all these new options. On the other, I think it does hurt the resale market. People are busy saving up for the newest release.

I remember a couple of Dolpa's ago, I had managed to purchase a doll through Dolls and Friends. Due to the normal process in which the local doll stores receive the dolls last, I received my doll only a couple of days before the next Dolpa was opening.

It also seems to me that the majority of the new releases begin to look the same as the companies rush to put out more dolls that vie for our attention. It's a bit overwhelming.

I've also slowed down my purchasing as I'm finding less and less that I'm really interested in. This is providing me with the opportunity to take a look at what I currently own and decide if they are really what I want. I'm seeing a reduction in my collection as a result.

[Songblade]

I like all the new releases as I'm still searching for a mold. I personally don't think it hurts previous molds because if the mold is good, people will still want it (How old is the El mold?)... But the limited outfits and molds are... a pain. They're always beyond my budget and I'd never consider buying a limited as I know the basic doll will arrive months later if I just had the patience.

[sgtgeorgecarter]

I have to say the flood of items has really made me slow down in one respect. I have to think very carefully about whether I like something enough to go through the hassle of getting it because in a month something I like better may come out. I have a limited budget that needs to be replenished before I can purchase again so I've found myself saying no more than yes recently.

[Lady Brick]

I have to say the flood of items has really made me slow down in one respect. I have to think very carefully about whether I like something enough to go through the hassle of getting it because in a month something I like better may come out. I have a limited budget that needs to be replenished before I can purchase again so I've found myself saying no more than yes recently.

That's pretty much how it is for me as well. In the same vein, so many companies have deals and specials (Luts gift heads, Domuya sales, etc) that I'll tend to put off purchasing non-limited items until I'm given an incentive to do so :p

[sgtgeorgecarter]

That's pretty much how it is for me as well. In the same vein, so many companies have deals and specials (Luts gift heads, Domuya sales, etc) that I'll tend to put off purchasing non-limited items until I'm given an incentive to do so :p

Same here. Incentives are good ;)

[saraquill]

Seeing and hearing about Dolpas that are happening nowhere near me doesn't really interest me anymore. Even if the items in the photos appeal to me, I can't afford it, nor will I be able to see it in person, so it's just a lot easier not to get too worked up over them.

[Sakura]

I honestly can't keep up with all these releases and my bank account can't either. :( I'm glad that it's easier for everyone to have an opportunity to buy dolls more than ever before but I feel like I have to keep an eye out for what could be a dream doll being released when I would like to remember to have enough money to keep up with my other hobbies such as photography, cosplaying, and travelling (all of which cost way too much money :doh).

[kirane]

I have this feeling too, especially when I'm a Volks monomaniac. I don't have unlimited funds either and I have sold three dolls to buy a Cristal via an intermediary - and I didn't even get her, nor the other doll I wanted. Cristal is 'done' now, I'm waiting for her arrival. But I've just finished a book and a new one begin. I see that yoSD will be rereleased at L.A then that Sato is planning new (old?) releases one month sooner. I need a body for one of my dolls but with a soon-to-be-finished job, I need to be careful. Get a body, which is unlimited? Get a Tinatsu? What if they rerelease Kasumi the month before? What if? What if? I'm a bit 'in urge' because I know that in two months, money source will be closed and I want to get as much as possible before. The result is more stress, frustration and misunderstanding. Even though we are talking about dolls, simply dolls.

Moreover, living in Europe, I can't access American-only Dolpa items, I have troubles getting stuff from Japan, and I pay much more than necessary on the second-hand market. Money may be spent quicker and I can't breathe at all when a new event happens every two weeks (to be caricatural).

[tarouchan]

Personally, I have no problem with the increase in doll events and releases - in fact, I quite welcome it.

Why?
To cite Volks as an example, their company motto is all about finding your dream doll - one that you can fully customize to make your own. I think that with the increase in molds available, it's much easier to find that 'perfect' doll - and at the same time, this 'oversaturation' is bringing the second-hand market down some, making it easier for some to find dolls they might have missed in After Events and what-have-you. I like that.

And besides - events are fun! I think it's great that doll companies can put them on to start with, and I'm surely grateful for all the amazing things I see come out of these special occasions (even if i can't always afford them at the time!)

[catcooter]

Maybe it's because I've been around for so long, but it doesn't bother me. It's just the way Volks has always done things. I get excited to see the new things. My wallet never heals because it is always empty to begin with. I learned a long time ago I could never afford to buy many of the things I want and for as long as I can remember, they've been difficult to obtain. If anything, at least now sometimes you can actually get some of them online. It used to be all one could do is peruse the Japanese site and dream. They may have more Dolphas now but to me, it means more goodies to choose from. I still can only have a few, but since I could only afford a few to begin with, at least I have more to choose from.

[Wotan]

I have to say the flood of items has really made me slow down in one respect. I have to think very carefully about whether I like something enough to go through the hassle of getting it because in a month something I like better may come out. I have a limited budget that needs to be replenished before I can purchase again so I've found myself saying no more than yes recently.
I definitely sympathize with this feeling. Even in the year I've been in the hobby, the number of options has increased so drastically. When I was first shopping around last summer, I found myself making a lot of, "Well, it's not perfect, but it's the best available" types of decisions. Now I'm a lot pickier.

From the standpoint of the flood of limiteds, I'm a bit torn. I like the increased number of limiteds because it dilutes the pool of prospective buyers. On the other hand, I dislike it because I honestly have a hard time keeping up with the newest releases. I can't make it around to all the company sites frequently, and I'm busy enough on the forums just keeping up with the things that really interest me, so it's easy for me to miss the announcement of a new limited that I might really want. As a result, I'm loathe to commit to getting a limited because something better may be right around the corner. When do you pull the trigger? *_*

[kirane]

Actually I'm annoyed in theory, but I am too eager to see the new models and clothes and all. I would also looooove to attend an event such as a Dolpa *3* But it's too fast for me.

[DimWitted]

it's just basic consumerism i think...something "new" and "exciting" is just what they use to get more money out of the business. it's really up to you whether you wanna be soaked in it, or cruise at your own speed.

[nettness]

Maybe it's because I've been around for so long, but it doesn't bother me. It's just the way Volks has always done things. I get excited to see the new things. My wallet never heals because it is always empty to begin with. I learned a long time ago I could never afford to buy many of the things I want and for as long as I can remember, they've been difficult to obtain. If anything, at least now sometimes you can actually get some of them online. It used to be all one could do is peruse the Japanese site and dream. They may have more Dolphas now but to me, it means more goodies to choose from. I still can only have a few, but since I could only afford a few to begin with, at least I have more to choose from.

QFT.

Volks have done this from the start, its no real difference now than it was 4 years ago. ^^

[sgtgeorgecarter]

QFT.

Volks have done this from the start, its no real difference now than it was 4 years ago. ^^

yes, but it's not just Volks alone anymore. It Volks & LUTS and Dollmore and all the other companies as well. I'm not a one manufacturer owner, and there's lots more manufacturers than 4 years ago.

[nettness]

Surely there is, the market has boomed, so obviously more than one company is going to do the same thing or see what one successful company is doing and emulate.

That being said, one of the first dolls I ever loved and wanted was a CustomHouse Jun, limited to 5 in the world and that was what three/four years ago? So its not like all the companies have gone 'OMG LETS ALL DO LIMITEDS NAO ITS THE NEW DEAL!' because they've all either started out with limited runs or released limiteds from their inception.

If anything there's more dolls and items available now NOT limited than there was then so its so much easier to buy things and not feel the crushing defeat™ of wanting a doll you've fallen in love with and know that there's no way in hell you'll be able to get it...

Spoiled for choice is never something one should complain about ;) XD

[sgtgeorgecarter]

Spoiled for choice is never something one should complain about ;) XD

Who's complaining?

I's nice to have choice but I have to say I'm overwhelmed into inactivity more often than not these days.

I'm lucky, my wallet gets rest. (sometimes)

[Yulia]

It is rather nice to be able to see a whole lot of new items pop up, as overwhelming as it might be, because as consumers we do ultimately have the final say on what we buy.

For me, the constant Dolpas and limiteds don't really haze me, as I'm a sporadic buyer, and the majority of the clothing styles available don't really appeal to me, because they don't always the style my crew would use. Lately I find myself doing a lot of 'window shopping'.

If you turn it around, more companies started up because there was a more substantial demand, and thus more competition; more competition means there was a need for new marketing strategies, which leads to limited runs and special offers. The BJD hobby has opened up a whole lot, and the market is international, huge, very lucrative if you strike the right chord.

[Sat]

I gotta admit I am of the mindset that this is saturating the market beyond capacity.... At least it feels that way to me. I remember when my friend first introduced me to BJDs and I was hearing about how she won a doll in a lottery or something like that. It didn't seem very often that it happened and now it seems like everyday I read about 2-3 events from different companies.

I understand competition in the market and I understand how business works, but nobody can ignore the lull in the second market sales. I have watched limiteds go for less and less because there is just another limited around the corner that somebody will want and can get it for less.

I also feel that there should be more standard releases than limiteds. It seems that every event, they are speaking of new limiteds but very rarely are they standard release editions that everybody can purchase. I understand that it is a ploy to get you to buy on impulse because "IT MIGHT GET SOLD OUT!" but at the same time, it is rather annoying to me at the same time. I keep just bypassing the limiteds in the hope that a standard edition might be released eventually and yet I am STILL waiting for Volks to release a new standard edition. Its rather frustrating. I know that other companies have standard releases more frequently, but do we really need yet ANOTHER limited edition doll every month or so?

[rkold]

Surely there is, the market has boomed, so obviously more than one company is going to do the same thing or see what one successful company is doing and emulate.

That being said, one of the first dolls I ever loved and wanted was a CustomHouse Jun, limited to 5 in the world and that was what three/four years ago? So its not like all the companies have gone 'OMG LETS ALL DO LIMITEDS NAO ITS THE NEW DEAL!' because they've all either started out with limited runs or released limiteds from their inception.

If anything there's more dolls and items available now NOT limited than there was then so its so much easier to buy things and not feel the crushing defeat™ of wanting a doll you've fallen in love with and know that there's no way in hell you'll be able to get it...

Spoiled for choice is never something one should complain about ;) XD

Actually, there is such a thing as being spoiled by choice. I believe there are at least pop-sociology/pop-psychology books about how now, particularly in the US we are given too many choices and are frozen by the possibilities.

But on to my actual feelings and not me just playing devil's advocate.

While I know this will upset many people and it is a touchy subject as it involves personal finance, all of these dolls, whether made by Volks, CP, or DoD (pick a brand) are luxury items. As luxury items, they're geared towards the wealthy, the sort of people who don't have to worry about saving up money to buy a $500 doll or the need to decide should they get a new outfit or a pair of ED eyes. I know this sounds harsh, but I really think that this is also a part of all the events happening at the same time or so close together.

Personally, I don't mind that they're so close together, but wish they would give out information a little more ahead of time. I remember one Dolpa there were no pictures of the outfits for sale until 2 weeks before the event.

[Rhian]

I like it very much! I am, as in all things, extremely selective with what I buy, and I haven't yet had the serious problem of falling in love with doll after doll or outfit after outfit with no possibility of affording them all. I enjoy seeing the new releases, and it keeps things fresh and interesting for me.

It must be exasperating for those who keep their nose to the ground for all potential releases, and for those who have specific character slots to fill and who are therefore always looking at every doll in case he or she is 'the one'. I do feel for these people, but for myself, I have long known that my budget isn't equal to buying dolls (or outfits) often at all, and so I'm used to watching things going by with complacency. :)

[St. James]

I think its a natural thing for a market that's desperately trying to maintain the bubble in the face of an eminent economic collapse. The only way to get more buyers to commit is to continuously have something new to offer. There are those who will get caught up in the must-have-new mentality and there are those who will sit back and wait for the "perfect" one because it's bound to happen soon.
I've pretty much reached capacity at my house, and I already know what the next three dolls I'm buying are. I do find myself looking to refine existing dolls, say with an improved body, because I can't add additional dolls.
From a collector's perspective, I'm happy more dolls are being produced. The more they make now, the more there will be in the future second-hand market when the companies are gone.
From an environmental perspective, I'm horrified that I even participate.
From an economic perspective, I'm sympathetic to the needs of the small businesses that have committed their livelihoods to this hobby and hope they haven't put all their eggs in one basket.

[tarouchan]

I also feel that there should be more standard releases than limiteds. It seems that every event, they are speaking of new limiteds but very rarely are they standard release editions that everybody can purchase. I understand that it is a ploy to get you to buy on impulse because "IT MIGHT GET SOLD OUT!" but at the same time, it is rather annoying to me at the same time. I keep just bypassing the limiteds in the hope that a standard edition might be released eventually and yet I am STILL waiting for Volks to release a new standard edition. Its rather frustrating. I know that other companies have standard releases more frequently, but do we really need yet ANOTHER limited edition doll every month or so?

...but Volks did just release new standards. :sweat
Mark (http://www.volks.co.jp/en/superdollfie/sd/mark/index_mark.aspx) and Elena (http://www.volks.co.jp/en/superdollfie/sd13/elena/index_elena.aspx), new SD boy and SD13 girl.

[miss sha]

I for one think it's all a great pain in the ass. XD

Not so much the events, but the constant focus on LIMITEDS. Almost every doll Volks produces is a limited, and other companies are starting to jump on this practice as well. Obviously, this isn't anything new with Volks, but that doesn't mean I ever liked it. It's as if Volks is releasing brand new limited dolls every few months, but how long ago was it that they released new standards? Not to mention that there are no standard options yet for Yo-SD, SDC, SD16 or SD17. It's all just very frustrating. And with Luts, though it doesn't happen so much anymore since they've gotten new sculptors, if there was a limited, you'd know that you had to be up at some strange hour, racing to click and grab and get it in your cart, although with the hundreds of other people doing the same thing at their own computers.

I don't mind the constant output of dolls, of having more and more options available to you, I just don't like the percentage of those releases being limited in some way. It just seems to put a lot of stress and inconvenience into the hobby. Even the wealthy may miss out in a lottery.

[tarouchan]

It's as if Volks is releasing brand new limited dolls every few months, but how long ago was it that they released new standards?

To reiterate my post above, Mark and Elena just came out. It's unfair to accuse Volks of 'never' releasing standards.

Honestly, I'm a little surprised that there are so many people frustrated over the number of limiteds - for some, having a doll that is 'limited,' even if in name only, makes it that much more special.

It's also not bad business practice, as others have pointed out - releasing something that is 'special edition' or limited in quantity does promote a prospective customer into becoming a buyer more quickly. And if you're not into limiteds, hey - there are so many standards on the market now that it's not a necessity to keep up with every single limited release out there.

[miss sha]

Yeah, I'm aware that Mark and Elena were just released. I forgot to add that into my point -- although they did just come out, how long had it been since the release before that? The last ones were, I believe... Yori and Link? I think? Link, at least, came out quite a while ago.

For some, yes, having a limited doll makes it special. But just as many people don't care. They just want the doll -- sometimes not even the full set, all they want is the head. For those people, the doll being limited is just an inconvenience in trying to get it.

It's not bad business. But it's also not taking into consideration how much more money they might be able to make if those dolls were standards. Especially some older and highly desired Volks limited -- how many people have been trying for years to get an Anais, a Madoka, Shirou, Tsukasa?

[kirane]

I agree with miss_sha. I do own various and almost only LE. I love them, but it took me ages to get some of them at a reasonable price. It would be much simpler if they were standards dolls. It's something I end up disliking with Volks. 5% of standard dolls, 95% of stress. LE are pretty affordable if you can have them first-hand but the truth is : what a pain to get them! Not to mention that not everyone can take advantage of events. I don't live in Japan nor in the USA ; I don't have dolpa and I can't participate in lottery and after events in my own name. I must contact intermediaries, pay a commission and so on. I would LOVE to love something else than a limited doll, to pay it at retail cost for once. The problem of constant dolpas and limited items is the hunt, the battles and consequently the price increase. If only these events did not have that consequence!... I love Volks' dolls, they are what I was looking for... but their policy?...

[tarouchan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think SD13 Mimi was a relatively recent addition, too. I admit I'm not entirely sure on the release date there. :oops Something else that hasn't been mentioned are all the new additions to the FCS system - which is slowly becoming more and more accessible for everyone. That right there, in my opinion, proves Volks devotion to fulfilling their customer's dreams of the 'perfect doll.'

Believe me though, I do understand that frustration about trying to track down a limited on the after-market - I pined for a Liz boy for a long time. :sweat At the same time though, if Volks had a higher number of standards - if anyone could put Anais into their online shopping cart at any time - I think that would actually hurt their business. That turns their dolls from collector's pieces into toys on a shelf - and I really don't think that's what the company's vision is

Again, not to focus solely on Volks - Customhouse is another great example of super-limited, exclusive dolls - but they are the easiest example to use.

(Also - not to forget, Volks has rereleased limiteds - Sasha, Shirou, Isao, and Liz, just to name a few.)

[kirane]

Of course, from an economic point of view, I understand Volks' policy. For highly demanded dolls it would be a loss for them. However why not to release standard SD16, SD17, SDC, YoSD with new head molds? It would be already a great step. They have standard Tenshi too. So why not to expend to their other specific bodies? honestly it wouldn't hurt that much the limited market, if they create more molds with previously limited bodies. (yet I must admit that I would never have caught a Shirou without the re-release... at least there is hope ;) and I must admit as well that seeing armies of Mika would kind of hurt me) (Cassiel says Mimi13 was released in late 2003 apparently)

Custom House is indeed another case. But there you have limited molds turned standard. It's almost like Luts' rerelease of the elves after promising they would never be rereleased. For people who paid high - at a retail cost - some dolls of the unique line at CH, it's quite unfair. It's definitively a relief for people who wanted these very rare dolls at an affordable price, but the others? In the same time I'm pretty sure CH gets more with several standard Cebee than with any old unique Cebee, as they actually sell more dolls and satisfy more collectors.

(I know I look quite self-centered and egoistic about where events are held, but... ahem, please understand...)

[miss sha]

I think you mean SD10 Mimi? She was released May 2005. Still, that was two years ago and wasn't even a brand new mold, just an old mold released in pureskin. And although FCS is becoming easier to get, especially by making it available at US Dolpas, there are still Sato-only options, which makes me think that the "special" mentality is still there.

I think that's an unfair jump though. Toys on a shelf? Even if they're readily available, they're still very expensive dolls. I don't think any one considers their standard Els or Lishes as mere toys on a shelf.

I'm not excusing Customhouse either. Although, I think they've gotten a bit better about it, though, making some molds that you could only get as limiteds standards. I know Cebee, for a long time, was only available as a limited sculpt. Overall, I actually prefer what Customhouse does, as an approach to limiteds. By making certain outfits and concepts limited, but the sculpts themselves more easily available.

And rereleased limiteds, while definitely extremely helpful and appreciated, are still basically limiteds. :sweat

[rkold]

Yeah, I'm aware that Mark and Elena were just released. I forgot to add that into my point -- although they did just come out, how long had it been since the release before that? The last ones were, I believe... Yori and Link? I think? Link, at least, came out quite a while ago.

For some, yes, having a limited doll makes it special. But just as many people don't care. They just want the doll -- sometimes not even the full set, all they want is the head. For those people, the doll being limited is just an inconvenience in trying to get it.

It's not bad business. But it's also not taking into consideration how much more money they might be able to make if those dolls were standards. Especially some older and highly desired Volks limited -- how many people have been trying for years to get an Anais, a Madoka, Shirou, Tsukasa?

I believe Link, Yori and Kun were all released in 2004. That was also when we got MSD Hisui and Kohaku.

This has come up on threads on DoA, but one thing to remember in the cae of Volks at least, is their primary market is still the Japanese. The Japanese prefer limited items. There are limited flavors of soda and Pocky each year along with other cheap snack foods. (peach Twix comes to mind) The Japanese like limited items.

Nearly all the dolls that have been released for the US market have been much easier to get and have not involved the lines and lotteries for a spot in line, so common place in Japan. About the only US LEs I know of that involved waits in line, and relatively short ones at that by Japanese event standards were Tae, Shizu, and Mai. There were lots of complaints by people about how awful the lines were and every single US limited since then has been much easier to get.

How many people who attended the first NY Dolpa and wanted her did not get Olivia? The same goes for the second NY Dolpa and Masha?

Limiteds are what sells to their target audience, which is probably one reason they've not released more standards. ^^;

[miss sha]

PEACH Twix? Ewwwww, they can have that one. XD

I can certainly understand Volks catering to its Japanese market. The Japanese mentality towards possessions is overwhelmingly apparent every time something on YJ goes for an outrageous amount. It's frustrating, nevertheless, and wishful thinking that they do otherwise doesn't hurt anyone... except maybe our own hopes. ^^;

[kirane]

Peach Twix? XD I must try!

[tarouchan]

I can't speak for Peach Twix, but I had some Champagne KitKat bars from Japan that were simply amazing. :XD

miss sha - You're right, the analogy might have been a little harsh. I certainly don't mean disrespect to standard molds - I love my standard Chiwoo and Tiffee just as much as any ol' limited doll - but the point I was trying to make is that you take away something when you make a doll readily available. That doesn't matter to everyone - personally, I don't care if a doll is limited or not, either - but to some that makes a very big difference.

And to get right down to it, companies don't make that much money by releasing dolls as standards. Have some quick 'n dirty math:
- Customhouse Limited and Event Ai retail, generally, for $800 - $1,000.
- Customhouse Standard Ai girls are $580.
- If Customhouse makes a Limited doll with only 15 pieces in the world, priced at $900 each, that's roughly $13,500.
- The very same doll as a standard, if 15 pieces were sold, would only equal a total of $8,700 - a $4,800 difference.

So I don't think the argument that releasing more standards would make companies more money is necessarily valid.

[miss sha]

Buuuuut, the standard can sell far beyond just those 15 pieces. And it's also possible that the limited will sit and sit while people opt for the least expensive option instead.

What about a mold like Bermann? There is obviously a huge demand for them, far more than the limited supply. Dollshe can make a good chunk of money selling only 77 Dollshe at $900 a pop. But how many more people than those 77 who have missed out on Bermanns in the past would buy a Bermann made standard, even at $900? How many people would buy more than one, or buy one in every variety? That's a lot more money. XD

You're right, though, the argument might not be valid with companies that price their standards much lower than their limited dolls, or with dolls that aren't as in high of a demand as other dolls. I don't think Luts prices their limited sculpts (just the sculpts, not the art delfs) that much higher than their standards, do they?

[Taco]

And to get right down to it, companies don't make that much money by releasing dolls as standards. Have some quick 'n dirty math:
- Customhouse Limited and Event Ai retail, generally, for $800 - $1,000.
- Customhouse Standard Ai girls are $580.
- If Customhouse makes a Limited doll with only 15 pieces in the world, priced at $900 each, that's roughly $13,500.
- The very same doll as a standard, if 15 pieces were sold, would only equal a total of $8,700 - a $4,800 difference.

So I don't think the argument that releasing more standards would make companies more money is necessarily valid.

It depends on how many unlimited versions they think they can sell. If they can sell a fair amount, then they will make more than selling just a few LEs.

I don't have a problem with limiteds--it's natural for companies to want to offer something special to their customers, and they tend to make collectors happy. But I'll be honest, I generally bypass limited dolls. I find that there are many unlimited dolls I want just as much, and when a limited comes up that I do want, I don't have the money to buy it.

I'm more interested in dolls matching up with characters I have in mind, or a doll that evokes a particular mood, or what have you. I'm not terribly interested in whether a doll is a limited or not. In the case of many limited full sets, I would probably rarely if ever even use the outfits so it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to go through the hassle.

Overall, I like seeing all the variety that is available now in bjd land.

[tarouchan]

Buuuuut, the standard can sell far beyond just those 15 pieces. And it's also possible that the limited will sit and sit while people opt for the least expensive option instead.

The question then is, how many standards are they really going to sell?
If Customhouse makes and sells 30 standard Cebees in a year, then they make more money than those 15 limited Cebees would have made, yes - but if, as Customhouse is known to do, they instead make several different limited versions, then it's very likely that by comparison those 30 standard dolls are not as profitable. Of course, I've no idea how many standard vs. limited dolls Customhouse or any other company sells - I'd be very interested to know, though!

I really think, in the end, that my view on it is there are enough readily-available dolls on the market to support their demand - and, there are enough limiteds being made now that most people wanting a 'special edition' can have it. Nothing wrong with either choice!

edit: re:luts limiteds - Okay, I'm not an expert on CP dolls, but it looks like (in the case of Chiwoo, anyway) the regular edition Chiwoo is $550, while the Elf Chiwoo is $667. A noticeable difference, but then again the limited comes with an extra head and hands. So in that case, the limited doll is probably not a greater profit to them than the regular edition.

[nettness]

Actually, there is such a thing as being spoiled by choice. I believe there are at least pop-sociology/pop-psychology books about how now, particularly in the US we are given too many choices and are frozen by the possibilities.

I realise you're just putting forward a rebuttal viewpoint, but I never said there wasn't any such thing as 'spoiled for choice' I just said you can't complain about it. ;) "Oh noes, there's another 5 items I can buy if I want each for a thousand bucks that I'll fling my cash at cause , life is hard MAAAAnnnnng...." See what I'm saying? XD XD

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In a luxury item industry, the bjdworld actually comes lagging in behind on the limited edition front, ie compared to cars or motorbikes or yachts, high end electronics products, the couture fashion industry, etc etc.

Sure, I like to bitch that there's not enough standard models/items available to purchase all the time (especially with volks, UPDATE YOUR ONLINE SHOP ALREADY, OUTBIIIIIIIRK!) but in the end I couldn't afford to buy all this non-essential stuff all the time and so the purchases I make have to be specific, well thought out and solid.

Its exciting to see new stuff every few months, and sure the temptation to get pretties is high, but you have to just stick with your priorities and go 'MMmMmmMmmMm delicious!' and leave it at that.

[Shankula]

I'll be honest, it seems like a constant feeding frenzy--but I can't afford to GO to any of the events, much less purchase a doll or even clothing from the events...so I pretty much ignore all of the foofoofadooZomglookaneweventandteapartyanddolllzzz zzzzzzz! that seems to go on with Volks stuff. No offense, but I really don't see what the big deal is.

[kersuru]

I like Volks' way.. Every other company has their standards yet when you look on Volks' Japan site half of the standards are out of stock. But then again it's annoying if you don't go to the event or don't win the after event lottery >.>

Maybe Volks has so many dolpa's and limiteds because they want to see owners with their dream dolls. Volks limiteds are about $300+ more than the average standard (from other companies) due to an outfit, wig, papers and limited amount released. Maybe it's just the way Volks rolls.

[Lolly]

Remembering the old days when they were so few and we NEVER had a chance other than Y!J, and Doll & Hobby, I think its great.
I love seeing the new sculpts. I hope the LA market goes well so we could have one in NYC

[Tsuminaki]

I'm very happy that lots of new sculpts are being released - I am only hoping for a little more divergence from established companies - it seems to me like a lot of newer molds are looking like they adhere to one certain aesthetic (I notice because I don't like them all for pretty much the same reasons).
The fact that they're event based and limited - I understand companies' reasons for doing it, but I do not like the concept (of limiting something for increased market demand rather than lack of resources/time/interest) at all.

[Wickedgood]

Not specifically Volks-related, but I like how a lot of the major doll companies release limiteds fairly often. I like it for several reasons, the most important (to me) is the fact that I prefer BW dolls and a lot of the companies don't release that skintone in their regular lines. When they release the limiteds more often, it usually lowers the secondary-market prices, so even if someone misses a release, they won't have to pay an arm and a leg on Y!J or a forum marketplace to bring home their 'dream' doll. It also means that if you can hopefully catch another LE release of the same doll/mold if you just wait long enough, therefore foregoing the secondary market altogether and get a brand-new doll.

What I don't like is the way that Volks (and it seems like Customhouse is about to do a version of this as well - I'm not sure about other companies out there) has VERY limited releases that are intended for a special few. Meaning some LEs are available only to those people who are members or attend an invitation-only meet. That just seems, well, a bit elitist. I would rather have LE available to everyone worldwide, on a first-come, first-serve basis. Of course, I understand that they probably do so in part to thwart scalpers, but they are potentially alienating a lot of their normal fanbase in the process.

[Jun]

You have to remember that you don't HAVE to get everything. In my opinion, the flood of new things just means more pretties to look at. :)

[Hibiscus]

I enjoy having an array of new things to look at, and am very happy when I don't actually WANT many of the things that I see! I'm glad that it's gotten so easy for us to get dolls, and that there are so many companies out there doing such an array of dolls and wigs.

I do NOT enjoy the fact that so many dolls are so very limited that there is a market frenzy created around them. Yes I would love a Masha. Enough to pay twice retail for her? Um, no. How many people bought Mashas to resell them, knowing that they would be able to pay for their trip with her?

Looking around my room, I see that most of my dolls really did come from limited runs. Do I like them better for that? Yeah, a little, because those secondary market purchases felt like I was nabbing a grail! Would I have bought my limiteds if they were standard issues? You betcha! And a lot sooner, too. The dolls we like are the dolls we like---just look at how many Lishes and Els are out there.

Customhouse has their own pricey version of FCS, which is a nice fantasy for the American market. Perhaps Volks could issue some American standards for us. There are many limiteds where I have no desire for the fullset, but would pounce on a plain doll.

[eptrauma]

I've felt like that for a long time, actually. That i was overwhelmed with the different kinds of dolls available. When i started collecting these dolls there was really only Volks, Customhouse, Happy Doll, Cerberus Project/luts and Unoas. Now there's so many companys, and so many different sculpts that to buy a doll, i feel like it has to really stand out for me to even notice it.
I'm not really into limited dolls. I'd rather have a doll and make her or him my own through my own personal faceup and way of dressing them. Limiteds are cool, and nice to look at, but to me they feel like they're someone else's art on a canvas, where as i prefer to have dolls that are a blank canvas, because i like to do my own faceups and sew clothes or do my own styling for them, If that makes sence. That, and i feel like every time a new limited comes out, i see so many pictures of that doll and there's so much hype around it, at best i can enjoy that doll through the pictures and joy of others, and at worst i get a little burned out on seeing it.
But i'm not saying i would NEVER buy a limited. I was really tempted by the recent H.Naoto/Volks collaboration sd10, but decided against it and bought some H.Naoto clothing for myself instead. :)

[Panoptes]

Honestly, I am a little tired of all the constant dolpas and LEs. It used to be very exciting to look forward for a Dolpa, knowing that something spectacular would be out. I remember the days that I would probably purchase most of the LEs because all of them are so beautiful! But now, not the same case. Well I suppose it's good for my wallet. Secondly, I find it disappointing that people don't seem to see the beauty of the standards as much as they did. Volks Kun has to be one of the most beautiful and versatile girl's head ever designed, although she does have fans, I wonder what would her popularity be if she was released LE. Thirdly, I find the companies are going a bit onto the cycle of fast fashion; trying to cashed in every single 3 months and I wonder whether the collectors and market can actually keep up with it at all.

[clea]

i don't mind so many Dolpas and limiteds, beause i don't have the resources to attend the parties or collect all the limiteds. The sheer numbers and variety mean that if i really love a doll months down the line i might save and acquire a resold one. If i had a little more cash, or the ability to leave home for a Dolpa, i might feel as though there are too many.

[Tereya Chan]

I agree a little, I think sometimes the Volks standards get completely ignored in the fervor of Dollpas. I love my little Sara boy, I hope to get a Yori, granted a sunlight one, and I recently fell in love with Mimi. They really aren't that pricey in comparison.

I usually tend to ignore limiteds, or give them a brief glance and admire how pretty they are, then go on and look at standards or FCS dolls. I know that no matter what mold I get I'll be repainting it and changing its outfit, so to me looking at a limited seems like a doll plus other stuff that will either get put in a box or sold. With so many limiteds being released by so many companies I always hope that I won't like what comes out because I'm already saving for my standards.

I do have to admit, one of my troubles is that I really need a good amount of time to decide if a doll is really the one I want. With dolls being released all the time, I end up having to debate if the doll I really want is the one being released now, or should I risk waiting for the next round and possibly give up the chance of the one that seems to work right now.

Honestly, I am a little tired of all the constant dolpas and LEs. It used to be very exciting to look forward for a Dolpa, knowing that something spectacular would be out. I remember the days that I would probably purchase most of the LEs because all of them are so beautiful! But now, not the same case. Well I suppose it's good for my wallet. Secondly, I find it disappointing that people don't seem to see the beauty of the standards as much as they did. Volks Kun has to be one of the most beautiful and versatile girl's head ever designed, although she does have fans, I wonder what would her popularity be if she was released LE. Thirdly, I find the companies are going a bit onto the cycle of fast fashion; trying to cashed in every single 3 months and I wonder whether the collectors and market can actually keep up with it at all.

[Panoptes]

I agree a little, I think sometimes the Volks standards get completely ignored in the fervor of Dollpas. I love my little Sara boy, I hope to get a Yori, granted a sunlight one, and I recently fell in love with Mimi. They really aren't that pricey in comparison.

I do have to admit, one of my troubles is that I really need a good amount of time to decide if a doll is really the one I want. With dolls being released all the time, I end up having to debate if the doll I really want is the one being released now, or should I risk waiting for the next round and possibly give up the chance of the one that seems to work right now.

Hehe, I have all three dolls that you have mentioned and I am saddened when people don't seem to favor them as much because they aren't LE. I don't know, perhaps I am biased.

I think you hit the core issues. Sometimes I feel like if I don't buy a certain LE right at their releases, I will have to pay another insane amount of money for them later; which I often did.

[ravendolls]

I don't mind the flood of new things coming out too much, most of it doesn't tempt me, and I've reduced my collection to some things that I think are hard enough to find that they'd sell pretty quickly. I have odd tastes anyhow.
Now if I see something I really like I just *wait*. If I like it enough I can wait years. I'm not going anywhere, what's the rush?

Raven

[kirane]

I agree a little, I think sometimes the Volks standards get completely ignored in the fervor of Dollpas.

Volks Kun has to be one of the most beautiful and versatile girl's head ever designed, although she does have fans, I wonder what would her popularity be if she was released LE.

I second this with all my heart. I own a Mimi (well, a fcs one) and I've seen so many different ways to customize her... Even mine went through a variety of changes. Kun is also an extraordinary mold... For some reason, they are most redhair with green eyes but even like this, they certainly don't look the same. It's a bit unfair.

And even the new SD13 Elena looks like this. People were all excited by the 1st LE version and I actually bought a body for my Cristal, that ended up being a LE Elena's body. But Elena herself... It's pretty frustrating when you're looking for pictures. She and Kun are dolls I would love to hold in my arms ^^

With dolls being released all the time, I end up having to debate if the doll I really want is the one being released now, or should I risk waiting for the next round and possibly give up the chance of the one that seems to work right now.

True. So true. I've felt that way for some times and with the upcoming Dolpas, Sato events... I don't know if I can buy this without regretting that.

[saranilla]

Whoops, I thought I was in another thread.

[chibinezu]

I honestly don't mind it at all, but then again I've never really paid any more attention to a doll just because it was 'limited'
Limited doesn't equal special or anything I should rush to get, in fact if something is limited I'm more likely to look and dismiss rather quickly. If I decide I like and want much later then I will buy on the secondhand market when the inevitable amount of owners receive their Limited and realize they were too quick to buy just because it had the Limited tag added to it.

Quite frankly though for a company that says they want everyone to find their Dream Doll they make getting a lot of their dolls a lot harder for people XD

I would -never- sell one of my dolls just for an impulse buy of a Limited.

[Pirate Reine]

I think Volks should focus on their standards because personally, the Limiteds at the Dolpas would do alot better then the standards on the shop. I would buy a standard Liz so fast!
But I guess they want to work with a certain market, it makes it feel sort of exclusive. I mean its great to get the doll when it comes out and pay the base price but the after market destroys it for me, esp. for "certain" limiteds.

[Bandwidth Broad]

<huge snip>

I've pretty much reached capacity at my house, and I already know what the next three dolls I'm buying are. I do find myself looking to refine existing dolls, say with an improved body, because I can't add additional dolls.
From a collector's perspective, I'm happy more dolls are being produced. The more they make now, the more there will be in the future second-hand market when the companies are gone.
From an environmental perspective, I'm horrified that I even participate.
From an economic perspective, I'm sympathetic to the needs of the small businesses that have committed their livelihoods to this hobby and hope they haven't put all their eggs in one basket.

Amen to all of this, which was extremely well put.

There are a few things we're all forgetting. First, we are the ones who control our wallets (well, she amends ... I sometimes think my mortgage company does). We decide whether or not we want to purchase a doll. Our spending habits are not Volks' fault, or Custom House's, or Lutz's. They're our own. Why should we complain about the company when it's our own lack of self control that walks us down the dark path?

I am one of the folks who has almost entirely limited dolls, although it was first Volks doll parts (when they were available and could be purchased by the deputy services) and then a standard issue Rio at the very beginning. I do have dolls from several other companies, but constantly return to Volks. I've been to a few of their (U.S.) events and have met the family behind the dolls -- I admire them and respect what it is they are trying to do with the dolls (to which they really do ascribe some mystic qualities). I rarely change their faceups, although I sew for all of them. If I hadn't liked what I was purchasing, I wouldn't have gotten the dolls to begin with. I do adore and admire my rein kids and, yes, I like knowing that many of them are limited. I'm human, after all.

As far as too many events, I can remember what the market was like in 2003. It was nearly impossible to get these dolls -- we went through deputy services or risked international wire transfers (providing a company would ship internationally). So which would you rather have? Constant waits and extremely scarce products, or the variety now available? We can't have it both ways. Personally, I'd rather have the variety to look at. Would I purchase some of the outfits alone? Perhaps, but it's the overall characteristics of a doll, styling and outfit included, that attracts me (or not).

With respect to our secondary market, it really doesn't make sense to blame the doll companies for what does or doesn't happen in the secondary market. I have purchased several things on the secondary market (all at an extremely reasonable rate -- rarely more than a few dollars above regular retail), but would never dream of paying the secondary market going rates for any of the limiteds. If I can't get them on the primary market, well, there will always be another day and another doll. Remember, folks, that we are the ones who have made the secondary market what it is.

[Kokoryta]

Frankly, I don't keep up with Volks and their dolpas and limited, partly because their international site is annoying to navigate, partly because they don't interest me. :oops

However, I would love it if Volks made their FSC system available online, then I may be temped to buy a doll from them.

I do like that there are more options out there, it gives people more choice. But, since I don't plan on owning more then 3-4 dolls, most things I can just admire from afar.

I like when companies, like Iplehouse, have limited editions of their dolls and then release standard sets. This way everyone can have the doll, but not take away from the specialness of owning a limited. :nod

[Pirate Reine]

However, I would love it if Volks made their FSC system available online, then I may be temped to buy a doll from them.

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I like when companies, like Iplehouse, have limited editions of their dolls and then release standard sets. This way everyone can have the doll, but not take away from the specialness of owning a limited. :nod

I completely agree with these two statements!
An online FCS would be another goldmine for Volks:dance!

[halfling]

All of the Dollpas I've heard about are either on the coats of the US, or in another country. They are too far away for me to go to, and that's what I think of the Dollpas.

I only like a small percentage of doll head molds, and even fewer body styles which saves my pocket book. I'm generally not tempted by the dolls released at Dollpas.

[Twilight]

All the dolpas and stuff just wear me out. I can't keep up with it all, honestly. I know I won't have the cash to get anything, and most of the time, the secondary market mark-up is just horrid, so I don't even bother. =/ Thank goodness most of the dolls coming out do not appeal to me in the least. *gently pats credit card* XD

[KeiCai]

Personally, I love the way Volks releases their limiteds. I like how they have set times for their limited releases so you know that you can plan for the possibility of liking a doll, then give you several different ways and times to obtain said doll or items. (Dolpa, after-event, US after-event). In reality they aren't that much more expensive either due to their limited eyes, outfits, etc. that can be easily split up or resold if you don't like them. I enjoy looking forward to new releases that may be added to my 'want someday' list, and maybe my collection if I have the money.

Lately I'm much more annoyed by what Luts is doing. They continue to release limited, new dolls despite being backed up in shipping. When they released their new Senior Delf boys, I knew at least 3 people who had been waiting over 2 months for their purchase. =/ I think releasing often is fine, as long as you continue to keep up your good business in the process.

I can understand why Volks doesn't want to bring FCS online. They mean it to be something special, something very personal as you obtain your dream doll. (I think they stated that... somewhere, either in a magazine or the Another Yourself Encyclopedia... )


I don't feel like the doll market is saturated at all. The hobby is growing very large very fast, and all the companies are keeping up with it. Each person has different tastes, so I think so many new releases of so many different dolls is a good thing. ^^

[nakitama]

Lately I'm much more annoyed by what Luts is doing. They continue to release limited, new dolls despite being backed up in shipping. When they released their new Senior Delf boys, I knew at least 3 people who had been waiting over 2 months for their purchase. =/ I think releasing often is fine, as long as you continue to keep up your good business in the process.
Ditto that. CH is the same way right now. I waited 10 weeks for my boy, while they kept releasing more and more limiteds. How many months did people wait for Audrey, the first Vintage Ai, while each month they released new ones? :( I miss the old CH. At least they've stopped orders for a while, I hope they're using the time to catch up, not plan more dolls...

I think the other reason why Volks doesn't do FCS online, is because they would get overwhelmed. Imagine how long the wait would be then!! :wahwah

[Ai Kazi]

:( I'm so overwhelmed, but I don't find it a bad thing.

I think it really does give you a chance to think about what you're buying. It saves a lot of "bonding issues" when there is not that constant rush to be the first to have this, that, or the other.

*I also want to state that I agree with what KeiCai is saying about how Volks releases their limiteds. I like the long waiting periods..I just wish there weren't so many. I tend to like almost all of them! XD*

[Myth]

I hope i'd get to be at a dolpa at least once in my life. I don't really like going to big events, but this looks like it's quite an experience.
I don't care for the number of limiteds or the space between events. if it's a miss this time it could be a hit the next. there are more and more ppl getting into this hobby, and the more ppl the more variety in taste, and i don't think they expect one person to buy everything they release... tho maybe some ppl do, i don't know. i could see how easier it is to just run a doll in a limited quantity than a standard, but if you don't want to have everything, and/or came to terms with the fact you can't have everything, every time there's a limited release think carefully if this is one you really want. as for me, i just enjoying seeing what they come up with, and not looking to buy everything that comes out :)

[Panoptes]

Ditto that. CH is the same way right now. I waited 10 weeks for my boy, while they kept releasing more and more limiteds. How many months did people wait for Audrey, the first Vintage Ai, while each month they released new ones? :( I miss the old CH. At least they've stopped orders for a while, I hope they're using the time to catch up, not plan more dolls...


For some reasons, I am quite partial to Custom House and I, too, waited for almost 2 months for my dolls to come. My (uneducated) guess would be for a small company like CH, the strategy of constant dolpas and LE is to maintain cashflow...:damnit? :dead Gah, just wild speculation here. But I would agree, I hope they are catching up!

[pithetaphish]

I think part of the reason why Volks especially have been producing so many LEs lately is that the hobby is booming not only in the West but in Japan as well - the waiting time for FCS orders has doubled in the space of a year, and Volks have announced they're opening up three new stores over the next three months. There's a big demand here and I think Volks are trying to cater to it.

[bakayaro onna]

I feel lucky that I am not tempted by most of the new releases anymore. I have only a few dolls left on my must-have list and I will be finished with that part. I have a few tinies on the maybe list who may come to live with me in five years time, if I am still in the hobby.

I have gotten to the point I don't feel 'rushed' to grab that limited sculpt anymore, either. I do have a few limited, but the last one I got (mnf Shiwoo elf) didn't sell out within 24 hours like many expected (in fact, I think some are still available) so that rush so early in the morning had been completely unnecessary.

I like how Iplehouse does it - release a limited with special clothing, then later, release the basic sculpt for everyone else. It's civilized.

[taiki]

It is a littlebit overwhelming to have so many events in such a short time. It makes me think twice about what i really want to have. But i was a littlebit surprised when i came back after my 6 month hiatus and they released 6 new YoSDs (?!?!) That actually made me realize how fast the hobby progresses.

[celestia]

I don't intend to buy left right and centre. The sense of urgency for limiteds are usually used in the event there is an item i *must* have that will *never* be available again ..that i know i would *never resell*.

Patience should a central practice in this hobby- remember these cost upwards $600; the fact people are buying on a need-it-nao basis (feeling generated as a result of the current intense feelings for something) creates a nice playing field for scalpers to profit off. Needing to buy everything everytime results in you selling them anyway to fuel something else you want more- therefore striking the: why buy it in the first place?

The only thing i really don't like about all the DOLLPA is that anyone not capable of attending these parties (overseas, bed-ridden , -phobic ) are made to pay the price anyway.
Similarly, limiteds are terrible when not enough exposure is given for the right mount of time. I came back around mid 2007 having exited the scene for over a year prior, so i had no knowledge of any molds and have evidently missed out on a few i would have otherwise bought during the time frame.
I do however, disapprove when a supposed limited 'mold' is back in production. As much as I want another Re-che mold, i secretly hope they never release them again after announcing initially that "this will be the first and last order for Re-Che".

Slightly off topic; but i don't like it where the only difference between standard and limited versions are
1.) face up
2.) clothes
3.) [something] you can remove and discover an identical copy of the standard line lying beneath.

[Daniel Falls]

I think the influx of dolpas and limiteds has made me finally realize how to better manage my money and make better choices in which dolls I want to keep. They have also provided me much more options, since I think that Ive just resigned to buying most of my dolls and clothes and eyes from Volks.

Their marketing strategy does catch me, since I usually buy things in fear of never being able to buy them again....if I do want them in the future. I dont have the same fear of items being out of stock with other companies, since other companies tend to restock their inventory.

On the other hand, I do find myself spending more money on dolls than myself, since the fear of losing out on a limited item gets me to spend more.

But in the end, this is where I learn better self control with how much I spend on my dolls.

[FunnyLori]

The constant rush of new sculpts into the hobby can be overwhelming at times. But, I've slowed my purchasing in the last few months. Now that I am no longer on the hunt for a sculpt, but for the right fit and style of clothing my style of shopping has changed. If I miss out on a limited doll that I really adore, I know that there is someone who will be selling it as soon as it comes home. I worry more over the clothing. I have hard to fit dolls, and finding clothes that fit the body as well as the style I am looking for has become a real scavenger hunt.

For me, my real pleasure comes from the sanding of seams, restringing, and ordering (or doing my own) custom faceups for my dolls. I won't get the default faceup unless it is free. I would be much happier if companies like Volks offered all of their standards in kits instead of complete dolls.

I find with the slew of LE's coming out all of the time, the companies only post a few vague photos of them that do not truly show off the dynamics of the sculpt. It isn't until they come home and owner photos are posted that I can really tell if they are the one for me or not. It took me eight months to finally buy my LE Unidoll when I realized that I was never going to find owner pictures.

I have tried to buy things from after events and such, and I get caught up in the moment and end up being disappointed when I lose out on something I didn't really want but settled for anyway because it was slightly more available than what I really liked. I don't want to "settle" for anything. I like getting what I like, when I want it, without the pain of click or bid wars.

[Tonboko]

Thankfuly I'm not overly drawn to limited outfits... now outfits that are already discontinued... that's another story.:sweat

And it seems everytime I see a limited doll that I like, its limitedness makes me want it more 'cause if I miss out now I miss out for forever! The grabby hands syndrome passes eventualy.

[ShaDrouet]

I like change so the new dolls constantly coming in doesnt bother me at all. I love all the new sculpts. and the chances to do lotteries. more often

[Soula]

In a way it's good Volks always starts selling the limited stuff when it's the middle of the night here in Europe... I just don't get excited at all when they announce something and think 'that's not available to me'.

On the other side it's a bit sad, as I started this hobby with Volks dolls (I have nine). But they are moving away from their stylistic sculpts (my favourites) anyway, so I just care less and less. I have a little hope they will one day open a European shop or webshop. Then they will have my full attention again!

[lin]

I like looking at the new dolls, but never buy from Volks, so it doesn't bother me. I have accepted the fact that I will never have all the dolls I want, so I am content to just look.

[AreeElf]

I have to say that in the last few months the increased availability of "limited time only or event dolls" has me think and plan my purchases more carefully. The more frequently limited dolls of a type or accessories come out it's more likely I learn to desensitize and learn that I can't have them all

I try to run on a budget so i now only go after dolls that really strike something inside me. I'm in it for the love of dolls themselves not the elitism of owning a limited.

The idea of new dolls coming out so often isn't new it's part of all doll collecting venues some time periods are just shorter than others.

Luts, Volks, and Dollmore are not the only culprits, Bambicrony seems to have monthly events too.

[Malice Librarian]

I find novelty in general to be overwhelming, let alone with ABJDs. There's no point getting worked up over a dolpa since chances are I won't have the time and money to attend one. And I avoid LE dolls like the plague since there's practically no time for me to save up for one, and I wouldn't feel comfortable spending so much at once for a single doll (when I think of LEs, I think of the $1000+ ones.)

[AreeElf]

Actually, there is such a thing as being spoiled by choice. I believe there are at least pop-sociology/pop-psychology books about how now, particularly in the US we are given too many choices and are frozen by the possibilities.

But on to my actual feelings and not me just playing devil's advocate.

While I know this will upset many people and it is a touchy subject as it involves personal finance, all of these dolls, whether made by Volks, CP, or DoD (pick a brand) are luxury items. As luxury items, they're geared towards the wealthy, the sort of people who don't have to worry about saving up money to buy a $500 doll or the need to decide should they get a new outfit or a pair of ED eyes. I know this sounds harsh, but I really think that this is also a part of all the events happening at the same time or so close together.

Personally, I don't mind that they're so close together, but wish they would give out information a little more ahead of time. I remember one Dolpa there were no pictures of the outfits for sale until 2 weeks before the event.

I don't think you're harsh at all. As insensitive as it may sound to some people the truth is ABJD are luxury items geared to the more wealthy but unlike Bentley and Rolls Royce they are within the price range of being able to be saved for so people tend to forget that. There are markets that specifically cater to the more wealthy so these markets don't feel they have to cater to the the saving plan of the potential buyer.

I do agree it would be nice if they showed previews of upcoming items about a month ahead instead of a week or a few days ahead

[Reshana]

I won't even look at most LE's because I know I probably can't get the money to buy it in time. I also don't like not being able to cool off and look at a doll after the initial grabby hands syndrome fades to see if I still want it more than my current favorite, and most LE's are released too quickly to do that. I do own one limited, but it was one I knew Luts would eventually release anyway and I wanted him even before he was announced.

Luckily I haven't seen a limited that makes me ache for it in a while. When I just joined the hobby that was the worst because I was exposed to all of the variety and number of limiteds that already existed and were sold out, some of those I did want badly. I've gotten over it though, I'm not going to pine after the unattainable.

[gayle]

I don't buy LE fullsets, and have yet to be taken with a Volks mold, so I don't really give them a whole lot of thought.

I suppose they can be great as social events, much like the energy at a con, but aside from that I just don't get swept up by them.

[bunnydots]

Obviously some collectors really like them, but they're not my bag. I prefer the companies that have a relatively stable line of sculpts, with a new thing coming out every now and then, rather than having a large number of sculpts that look very much alike for the most part coming out in different outfits every 30 seconds. I could see a Dolpa with limiteds as an annual thing, but it seems more like they are happening 2 or 3 times a year now, which would be way too much even if I were very into the Volks dolls, which for the most part I'm not. I'm not a big fan of doll cons either so adding Dolpas to the mix is just more No thank you for me.

[kirane]

I would love to have more time to look at previews, as someone has said. I had to decide quickly for the last Dolpa, not very sure of Cristal and Nono. I missed them both, at the event itself. That made me think a bit more and after a month and half, I was able to get Cristal who was growing more and more in me and give up on Nono, who was my initial love at first sight, of the two dolls.

I'm part of those who feel the need to get a doll or a LE "at the moment". I'm too impatient to wait for years. I've liked Anais from the beginning, wanting her quietly until the last past months. I regretted missing her two years ago, when she was not as popular as today, when I could have gotten her at a more reasonable price.

As for the luxury point, it's true. But someone has told me two days ago that if I didn't that much money, I shouldn't spend it in dolls and should save instead. I don't see why I couldn't get a luxury item just because I earn half of a salary. It's rather harsh in the sense that if you don't have the money right here right now, you end up just being some kind of frustrated loser. It's not because I have to save harder than other people, that I don't deserve it. I'm loving these dolls the same way. I do understand the idea of a hobby for the wealthy, mind you, but I think I don't deserve to be pushed away because I am not wealthy myself. That's a reason why the constant dolpas end up being so annoying, to me.

[Eiko82]

I don't buy LE fullsets, and have yet to be taken with a Volks mold, so I don't really give them a whole lot of thought.

I suppose they can be great as social events, much like the energy at a con, but aside from that I just don't get swept up by them.

I have to agree with Gayle. I'm sure it's cool to attend a Dolpa but besides that, I simply pay no attention to doll-events.

[april]

The BJD market is just changing... It always was, but the current changes just seem to be hitting the current people who are discussing these things (if that wasn't clear as dirt). Anyway... more people are buying BJDs and so more are being made available. It can seem overwhelming to people who were used to seeing only a few things released every now and then.

I remember the time when it was possible to keep track of all the new stuff coming out. Now it's still possible, but a LOT of time and effort! I've just given up the notion of keeping up. ... It may have helped that I'd already missed Volks limiteds and pretty much gave up on worrying about them right from when I first started buying dolls.

I haven't tried to go to any Dolpas in Japan--it might be fun, but I just haven't been able to make going to any practical. I have been able to go to the Volks events in L.A. since I live here. I'll happily head off to the one this November. In that respect, I think it's great that that Volks is spreading out in this manner! :)

I've got a number of dolls already and am feeling pretty content with them (although it doesn't seem to keep me from buying more--it just makes it less imperative that I totally HAVE to have whatever new dolls come out--limited or not).

All my dolls happen to be limiteds of some kind... but it doesn't bother me if more companies keep putting out limiteds. I do rather wish most dolls wouldn't be limited... just be sold until people stop buying them and they are retired, so people have time to save and to decide to buy without any pressure--and so all who want to buy a certain doll can get one. I can understand the marketing reasons behind limiteds, but they can make it difficult for a lot of buyers! (Although I didn't have a hard time, particularly, getting any of mine, I know that those who missed out for various reasons had to jump through hoops and often pay a lot to get similar dolls afterward... which is too bad, really.)

Re-sale prices of dolls is going down, but they would anyway--with more dolls on the market in general.

[kyliebee]

Untill last week i'd never really been interested in volks at all so the issue of this never came up, then i fell for Amakusa and had to have him. Though overall i don't mind them releasing like they do, it doesn't bother me either way really, but i do think its rather a nice way.

[JennyNemesis]

If the frequency of events & releases has increased recently, it's probably because the ABJD market has increased so much worldwide. We demanded more, and we got more-- and now people are complaining that we have too much available? *boggle*

You don't HAVE to buy something from every event. I think it's wonderful that these companies have regular release schedules, and keep coming up with nice special things. I only buy a doll for True Love, so I don't feel obligated to buy (or even want) something from every single release or event. I sure feel that they're targeting my heart & wallet directly sometimes, though! It's an exercise in willpower.

As for there being 'physical' events or parties, I think that's also a lovely way to present one's new products. Like-minded people can meet en masse, network & hobnob, and see the new items in person. Again, you're not obligated to go to every event. I think people lose sight of the fact that this is a pretty high-end hobby, and things are expensive, so the goods & events are aimed at the income-bracket of people who can regularly afford such things (travel, time off, admission, limited items, etc).




What I don't like is the way that Volks (and it seems like Customhouse is about to do a version of this as well - I'm not sure about other companies out there) has VERY limited releases that are intended for a special few. Meaning some LEs are available only to those people who are members or attend an invitation-only meet. That just seems, well, a bit elitist.

:D That's why they're called "LIMITED" editions. If everybody could get them, they wouldn't be limited.

The extra-super-hyper-limiteds, like DOD's Korea-event-only OOAK Tan Elf Ducan, or Volks's cruise-member-only Pirate Ceciles, which require you to be a certain place, are even more special. Many collectors relish the spirit of the hunt, as much as the actual acquisition!

[sgtgeorgecarter]

As for there being 'physical' events or parties, I think that's also a lovely way to present one's new products. Like-minded people can meet en masse, network & hobnob, and see the new items in person.

The more the merrier here. I'd rather go to the event and see everything and blab for hours than sit at home and just buy. But that's me.

I'm glad there's more cons and functions now than there used to be. Sooner or later I'll get to an asian one. Heck I flew to KL to see Aaron Kwok and HK at New Years once just to see Alan Tam, so I'm mad enough to go to Japan for a doll event.

Too bad I don't have one of those Volks l337 cards ;)

[hotelobby]

Hee hee. Bob Jessop is right. Capitalism is always on the verge of collapse because of it's inability to self regulate and needs outside force.

In this market's case: INTEREST.

So as long as there is interest and inflow of new consumers the market will always expand and keep itself up.

It will only collapse and fall apart if the interest dwindles. 8D

I'm so regulation theorist >w<;
___

Something I noticed about their Dolpas in Japan are that they come in Season. They coincide with the seasons. In my opinion, it's just like fashion. It's seasonal and though we despise how quick and sudden they come and go, BJDs are also subject to trend hence every so and so, it would be fresh/good to come up with new things.
That's why there's a "insert season" collection. Or something like that.

Also, because most of the time, they release limiteds, I lose touch in what limited seems to mean. 8D They keep releasing limiteds though they're only for a given number, you see them quite a lot. Sometimes I think it defeats a purpose... I think.
But hey, people get their mold of choice and all so all is well and good. :3

I think constant thing can also be traced back to the days JS Mill used to pushing the quill to his paper under the inspiration of his girlfriend then Harriet. Happiness for the greatest amount of people. Happiness that is high in quality and not just about quantity. Or something along those lines. :3

Though I think the massiveness of the choices seems to be geared towards quantity these days. But the nice thing about the hobby is the innert quality control/a.ka. it's about aesthetics so they're all beautiful in their own little way nonetheless.

...Eew. I'm using theories I learned in school/political philo on the forums X_x;

[purplewiz]

At this point, I try to at least look at all the new dolls coming out, but I'm pretty well saturated. I understand that the companies want to keep interest up, and that's what limiteds are all about, but there comes a point where I'm tired of jumping through hoops to get a doll. There are so many dolls out there now that there's a limit on what I will do and what I will spend because I have lots of other options.

I'd like to go to more company-sponsored doll events - not because I want to buy the dolls, but because they look like a lot of fun. Unfortunately, they're all far away from me and have been mostly inconveniently timed. So having more of those - and more importantly having them in different locations - would be a good thing.

Marcia.

[takira]

Seems like anymore there's not a "good" time to have an event, as I'm perennially broke. >_< I also seem to fall for limiteds more often than regular releases, which IS inconvenient but from the company's perspective works well--because when the item's limited, there's way more of a push to get it NOW while you can still get it at retail, even if it's tight financially...because secondary market prices are almost always badly inflated. This issue has lead to a number of impulse purchases on my part, none of which I regret but I have the occasional moment of clarity when I wonder how the heck I can spend almost a thousand dollars without thinking it over for more than a day or so. I wouldn't buy a car that way. I wouldn't put a downpayment on a house that way. I'd never spend as much on an outfit for me as I'll blithely plunk down in the heat of the moment for one of my dolls.

*eyes paragraph* ...that might've gotten a little off-topic. Moving on.

Ironically, of all the doll events that I have and plan to attend (saving for LA Dolpa now), I've yet to actually buy the limited doll at said event. I only seem to want the ones from events I can't get to. -_-;; Never said I was sensible.

[Coleva]

As long as it isn't one of the Horrible Dolpas of Mortgaging My Soul, it doesn't bother me. There's one doll I would have *loved* to have that I missed out on, and that makes me sad, but...maybe he'll come around again some day when I can afford it (aftermarket prices? No way.)

[Bandwidth Broad]

I love the Dolpas. I agree with JennyNemesis and sgtgeorgecarter above. There is a growing body of abjd enthusiasts in my area, and I'm very pleased to be able to get together with them from time to time, but at the Dolpas I meet people who are PASSIONATE about the same dolls that I have taken to my heart. I do not go to the Dolpas as much to land the limiteds (although I'll freely admit to having attended the NYC 2006 Dolpa for that reason), but rather to reacquaint myself with the people I've met at previous Dolpas and to "feel" the excitement and the spirit of the event. I'm not sure I can explain the latter bit, but perhaps somebody else who has been to the events and recognizes what I'm groping at can clarify this better than I can.

[aichaku]

i don't bother keeping up with the limiteds but i like the idea of lots of gatherings and dolpa is something i hope to attend one day. i've been in this doll hobby for more than 10 years, so in a way i'm "experienced" and i only buy what i really feel is something that i want badly. in a way limiteds are good because i get a unique doll that is very special. however, this hobby as is, already has room for lots of uniqueness and individualism via faceups, wig/eye changes, and mods we can do to the dolls. so people who don't buy limited don't lose out in this way. they still get have a unique doll that is all their own, by doing their own prefered changes.

[derilan85]

I have found some Volks molds that I really like, but they keep raising the price of them, and they make it even harder to get from the website unless you pay second market price and that is usually double or triple. Well unless they have enough to go around I will stay clear of them.

[Janne]

I have found some Volks molds that I really like, but they keep raising the price of them, and they make it even harder to get from the website unless you pay second market price and that is usually double or triple. Well unless they have enough to go around I will stay clear of them.

Holy cats, harder...? With Volks USA and a couple of US doll shops that carry Volks it seems insanely easy now, compared to how it used to be (when we had to bid on Y!J or hire a shopping service to buy a doll for us...)

I'm not sure it's really more expensive, either - I paid something like $600 for my standard Kira back in 2001 (plus shopping fees and shipping from Japan, which made her closer to $700.) Standard Megu is about $600 from Volks today.

I paid about $1100 for my LE Picadilly Chris II when he came out - the dollar was poor to the yen then. White Cat Chris was about $1100 at his latest release.

I don't see too many aftersellers tripling prices either. At least, not anymore. I saw a few with the original Sasha.

[Honooko]

I didn't realize QUITE how... massive the scale of the new releases were until I started a new job and ended up not going on DoA for about 2 months. I came back to find 2 new SD16s, a new SD17, a handful of SD13s, etc., plus CP Zuzu's, new Pipos Bahas, and right about there is when my eyes started to cross.

I am lucky in that I have never seen a CP doll I really liked enough to want, and Volks dolls, while occasionally making me sigh, usually just don't do it for me. It gets a little frustrating to be browsing the Marketplace and just be TRIPPING over Volks limiteds and one-offs because people are in some respect trying to give others the chance for their dream doll.

I do admit; while I recognize that the LEs are in fact limited, they don't FEEL very limited when everyone and their mom is either selling, waiting, or looking for one. XD

[MieAga]

It's exciting to see new dolls. I know there is a demand for the dolls so far. I share some concerns with others as to when/if BJD's gets saturated. We'll just have to see.

As far as more and more Dolpa's...well, I keep hoping Volks will come out with a boy I can't say no to. The more they try, the closer they get, so I'm good with it.

[lemonsky]

I'm torn between disliking it and loving it. I don't like it because I am, like a lot of people are, not rich so to see something that I really like (especially limited dolls) and not be able to afford it is paaaain (and I'm talking about really liking/loving it, not just wanting it because it's 'limited'). But then again, I LOVE all the new choices available in molds and styles. I guess it's not all so bad, because it does make us think twice about buying and gives us a chance to save up for one we really want. Although, I really would like it if some of the limited dolls were released as standards, because they are so lovely.

[Rosebud]

I like the variety of Limiteds or Specials. But the problem is that you don't always have the funds if you see one you like. I'm a new collector and I've already found two limiteds that I can never have, because I just started to collect and the sales were last year. Oh well that s the way it goes.

[Artemille]

In my opinion, Volk's aesthetic appeal is really hit and miss at times. They have some really cute molds, but some are really not so much. I think the problem with not having enough time for your wallet to recover is really a matter of self control. No one ever said you have to have all of them. If you want to be the kind of collector who has one of everything in a hobby like this, you would have to be loaded. Get the ones you really want, and you'll be fine. Impulse shopping anything that often is bad for you.

[Rai_Kamishiro]

Hmm... although it's a pain on the wallet when an event comes out with several items you like or several companies release really nice items close to each other, I like the fact that companies are putting out more limiteds and items in general. I'm really picky about the clothing and accessories I buy, and I have a distinct taste in molds, so I'm much happier about the variety in dolls now compared to even 2~3 years ago.

[Niko Ko]

First, I love this discussion topic. It reminds me of the state of the industry threads at Anime on DVD (albeit with a lot less gloom and doom.) :kisses

From a spectator perspective -- that is, someone who's more interested in looking than buying -- the frequency of Dollpas and other companies releasing limiteds is great. There's always something new and fabulous to check out and squeal over, maybe get inspired by. (Sort of like checking out the photos from Fashion Week, thank you Project Runway.) And it seems like a positive trend insofar as the pace of these releases suggests the BJD market hasn't reached its saturation point yet. But if I was more interested in buying, I might feel swamped by all the events, limited releases, etc. (I know I feel that way when Right Stuf chains together a few DVD sales I'm interested in.) At some point, there probably will be a slow-down, but until then I'm enjoying the show. :yey

(And yes, I am addicted to these smilies.)

[verilens]

The flooded market definitely makes it more difficult to decide what you want...and if it's a limited doll/item, you feel like you don't have very much time to make decisions, resulting in impulse buys which are then difficult to resell.

BUT, as far as "wallet hurt" goes...you won't die if you don't get every limited item or every limited doll from every company that you like. If you feel overwhelmed, take a break, step back, and remember that in the scheme of things, dolly items are really not THAT important. Something even cooler will come around next time, as Volks and so many other companies have proven again and again.

Hey, compared to the "early days" of the BJD fandom, when Volks, CustomHouse, and CP were the only companies to choose from (and there was much less variety,) the product overload today is awesome. Not to mention that items from Japan and Korea were MUCH less attainable than they are now...most companies at the time simply wouldn't take PayPal OR ship to the US.

So...I personally think the pros outweigh the cons ^^

[Lien]

I don't really buy limiteds or specials, so I just get excited at seeing what has come out. I get to see pictures of new molds or new styles, and I sometimes get to see them again, their owners changing wigs/eyes/clothes.

There always seems to be people willing to buy those limited dolls too.

[Agnes]

Who's complaining?

I's nice to have choice but I have to say I'm overwhelmed into inactivity more often than not these days.


YES That sums it up exactly.

I am a little nostalgic for when I was able to keep track of everything -- new companies, new molds, new clothing... Now I can't. If decide to look for something specific, I have to dig through piles of links and posts to find it, so the volume of choices isn't necessarily helpful in that respect. I'm not against all the choices, it's just... different. Overwhelming. This goes hand-in-hand with the huge upswing of hobbyists, too. If I'm gone from the hobby for a couple of months, I feel lost when I do come back. (Although that's one reason I've come to this smaller forum!)

[Rosebud]

I'm not really to happy with the limiteds. First of all you don't know when there is going to be one that you will just die if you don't buy. If there are several in a row, then your pocket book is really in trouble. I think it adds to the have to buy it now or I won't have a chance later. With the Dolpha's, I haven't been to one yet. I find it hard to look at a picture especially if the picture isn't a great one, to decide if I want it or not. My daughter tried to get me hooked and I wasn't interested in the dolls she had until she brought home a Yo-Sd. Fell in love at first sight. Then I was told I couldn't just go out and buy her. There was some lottery. Well I did get one, but it adds to the frustration of what to buy.

[Kogepan]

I think it's true that the market has become saturated. And, don't brick me, but I also suspect that the popularity of bjds is going to hit its peak soon and start to quiet down. It's a pattern that happens in many hobbies. I can't say if over-saturation is the cause or symptom of this.

This doesn't bother me, however. My point of view is this: 20, 30 years from now, will you or I still be part of the bjd fandom? For me, no. I think that the fandom will either atrophy or evolve into aesthetics that just aren't my thing. But, 20 or 30 years from now, I hope and believe that I will still love every bjd that I own.

With all the different molds now and the hype over every new limited, I do feel that it is increasingly important to discern my love for a new mold (which should last forever) from my getting caught up in the fandom's excitement (which, for me, won't last beyond a few years).

In that sense, the bjd hobby is a lot more difficult than my other hobby - where everything to collect is already out of production and there'll never be new limited editions, so there's only the matter of rarity and hunting down what you want. Because every possibility is already known, you have a long time to decide what you truly want, since you're going to have to wait a while for the right price/condition anyway.

On the other hand, I am enjoying the excitement of the constant rounds of limited editions lately! I'm one of those people who really relish rarity, so even when I'm not interested in ____ doll at all I love hearing that there are only ten pieces in the whole world, it comes with a costume designed by ____ and a faceup by ____ and a special edition ____, etc... :D It's... glamorous, I suppose?

And I don't know about anyone else, but I sometimes look at a mold and think, "This company/artist is going in the right direction, but if only it were just a bit different... I'll wait and see, they might hit the mark exactly with their next mold." With the rate that new molds come out nowadays, I have a much higher chance of finding that perfect mold if I just wait. So, in a way limited editions don't tempt me so much as make me pickier.

For example, I love Volks Shirou but am always unsure - sometimes I think he's a bit "flat," and the sculpt doesn't feel as expressive as newer molds. And lo and behold, along comes Volks Dollpa19 Tsuyoshi. He doesn't look like Shirou at all, of course, but he has the exact (difficult to describe) aspect that made Shirou attractive to me, except better.

...but perhaps this is backfiring, because I know I'm not going to break the bank for Tsuyoshi when he's released, either. I'll wait for good owner pics of repaints, and for a better price on the second hand market (which, as others mentioned, is certainly more expensive than Volks but at least a little depressed now), and... and in case Dollpa NY3 comes up with something I like even more. :lol

[clem_and_mikas]

I like that they are releaing so much, I'm picky with clothes and dolls so it's great to have more options.

[jwegger]

For the companies that make the dolls they are the way to keep stockholders happy. The more you sell the happier the stockholders are. Go all the way back to the early 1990's Mattel had a line of Barbies (Dolls of the world) that were orginally sold only in doll shops and department stores. Then they discovered that if they sold them to Toys R Us and Target and Walmart they would sell 100 times the number of dolls. BJDs are going though the same cycle, they are getting popular, the companies are looking for new ways to make more money,they make a limited edition and charge more for it than a regular edition. People that are not interested in the doll as something to own buy it and resell it at a higher price, the next limited edition sells out faster and the doll company goes from making four limited dolls a year to 10 or 12. What a better way to tripple or quadruple your sales?

[Angelsfalling]

It does give you a chance to find a limited that calls to you. But Volks still needs to release more SD16 and SD 17 boys so I can get one!

[Wee_Little_Faerie]

I don't mind that companies like Volks and Luts come out with limiteds all the time... the only thing that really irks me is when Volks offers a certain size as ONLY a limited... like YoSDs... why in the WORLD isn't there a standard YoSD?!

[Raouken]

When talking specifically about Volks, whenever I see a limited I like, I usually assume I'm going to get it second hand ^^;; It's not exactly easy for Europeans to get them, as you only have the After event where you compete with the entire rest of the world and the site crashes XD And most of the time, I don't need the outfit or other fullset things, so if I like a limited, I usually wait and get them second hand. Exception to this is my Irvin, I assumed he'd be like Masha and sold out in no time and really hard to get second hand so I searched for someone to get him for me. But usually, I see Dolpa's like window shopping, I look and enjoy but know I won't actually get it right there, right now. So in that way it isn't overwhelming to me.

Though, I do have to say that all these companies constantly putting out new dolls has made it hard to keep up with everything xD I didn't find out about the Soom monthly dolls till Bix, I completely missed Puki's until a friend of mine got one, it took me a month longer than everyone else to find out about the super senior delfs..I'm just a bit slow XD But catching up is fun as well, and you can always get a doll second hand if you really like it.

[elphsnt]

I think the concept of "limited" is true of many doll types and not only with BJDs or with a particular company. If you think getting a Volks Limited is bad, try getting a Rosen Lied limited - they sell out in minutes online.

The truth is that for people to "buy now" there needs to be some kind of motivation. Otherwise, some people will never buy or buy more slowly or worse yet, only buy what they can afford. So, when it comes to luxury items like dolls, sometimes limitations are necessary to maintain a customer base. It also maintains excitement and it means people are inclined to use credit even if they can't afford the item. It creates a kind of "frenzy", sometimes.

But, as others have mentioned, it also alienates people. Volks tends to do this with their "only in Japan" approach that has softened recently with the new location in LA. But, Unoa still does the "only in Japan" approach or a shopping service. Personally, I won't buy Unoa for this reason. The truth is that with reputable companies from China and Korea scrambling for my business, translating their sites and providing good customer service I couldn't be bothered with the jump through the hoops to buy me thing. They are very nice dolls but there are so many nice dolls out there that I'll never be able to own all the dolls I'd like to. And, for me, customer service is important - very important. It pretty much is a "make or break" thing and I'll choose the one that makes an effort.

And now, Volks. I hate the Limiteds. I cannot stand the desperation at the Dolpas and the huge lines. I cannot bring myself to even consider getting a Limited. That said, I have been to a Dolpa and usually go once a year. It takes the entire day to get through that lottery system, past that line and then purchase the doll. The entire day. After all that stress, it is no wonder there is a mark-up on those dolls. Even in person buying the dolls appears painful, to me. But, I love, love, love the FCS service and I love, love, love Tenshi No Sato. It is magical. So, Volks is not all that bad.

I'm the type of buyer who prefers to buy what I want when I want it and if it's not available I'll go elsewhere. I like the choice out there between companies and doll types. In fact, I'm loving it because it gives me the freedom to actually look for what I want rather than only choose what is available. But, I don't buy limiteds. I couldn't be bothered with the "game". Been there, done that, and no more. :heart

[elphsnt]

I don't mind that companies like Volks and Luts come out with limiteds all the time... the only thing that really irks me is when Volks offers a certain size as ONLY a limited... like YoSDs... why in the WORLD isn't there a standard YoSD?!

I agree with this 110%. I don't understand this either. :|

[ruinchan]

I'd die happily if there is a standard YoSD! lol
Limited dolls have pros and cons, IMHO. They are superior in quality but their price (esp. in the second-handed market) can suck your wallet dry. I've been trying not to fall for a limited but failed miserably. *sigh*

[Nikittin]

A limited doll that you desire creates the pressure to purchase ASAP because when it's gone, it's gone! It's exciting, but can also be stressful. Of course, the "when-it's-gone-it's-gone" angle is not exactly true because if you wait patiently and save up, the limited doll you are after will come up in the secondhand market or sometimes, the company will re-release the doll in a different outfit, faceup, etc. Limiteds also feed the scalper market, unfortunately. It's definitely a downside to them.

One way to cope with the "pressure" of new limiteds coming out is simply not to check the news threads. It may be challenging and strange at first, but after a while, you really notice how it's helped the "problem." This is speaking from personal experience! I've even stopped checking auctions and the marketplaces because I know I will always find something to make grabby-hands at. :whome

My personal collection consists of mostly limited dolls. It's not that I don't like standards, I do, but it's so easy to say, "Chiwoo can wait, because he will always be there. I have to get this Soom doll because OMGZ, she's only available for a month, must buy NAO!" :p Limiteds can create a craze; standards wait patiently. In the process of crazes, the desire for standards fall in the wayside sometimes. And let's not forget the superficial "prestige" of having this limited and very special doll, wow!

So anyway, there are definite plusses to limiteds, but also some cons, too. I suppose you sort of have to ask yourself (plus look at your existing collection), "Do I really want this?" That's like the "To be or not to be" question in this hobby, lol.