Volks One-off numbering

[Cloud]

I'll be going to the LA Dolpa and got to thinking about one-off dolls. How does Volks label the headplates on one-offs? Since they are all new members of closed limited editions, do they show the original LE issue date or a recent date? Just curious.

[Karhys]

I have a one-off head that I got off Y!JA recently (it's fairly recent, I think, as it is UV Protect pureskin) and the headplate just says "ONEOFFMODEL". From what I've heard from a few other people who've talked about theirs, they also say the same. So I'm guessing that that's the standard for one-off model headplates, and if there's anything specific known about them, it's probably recorded in the certificate that you get with the one-off rather than on the headplate. :)

Sorry that it's not more exciting! ;) (That said, it is kind of cool to have a headplate that says that. :lol)

[Cloud]

Thanks -I knew you would have the answer. I do think it would be very cool to have a one-off!

[april]

Hmmm... I just went to check my One-Off Shiro (from 2nd L.A. Mansion Tea Party 2006). The plate on the back of his head says:

"TO 0052"

I have no idea what this means!!! Did they not put the proper plate in??? :?

[thesaraghina]

april, my Tohya (from this past June's NY Dolpa) has a number as well. I don't know if it's only the newest Oneoffs that have numbers instead of "Oneoff model" on them, or if it's the US released ones. I wouldn't be surprised if the newest ones are labeled with numbers though, I'd think it makes them a little easier to trace if the certificate is lost. ^^;

[Janne]

A Sato One-Off from 2005 that I bought second hand has a number on the plate (starting with an O) and my daughter's One-Off's from the 2006 and 2007 NY Dolpa's also have numbers. (Hers start with TO.)

[Karhys]

Hmm, interesting! Thanks for all the useful information, everyone!

I wonder if they're introducing specific numbering systems for special events and things like that? Sato one-offs and events such as the Tea Parties would make sense to have cool numbering systems... but I wonder whether they'd bother to go through all the hassle to do it for all the store one-offs as well! (Like, they have 10-20 new one-offs in each Sumika every month... whew. :oops) So maybe only one-offs from specific events have numbers and letters. TO = Tea Party One-Off? If so then it might make sense also that Sato one-offs just have O for One-Off as they're sort of the 'original' one-offs, at the 'birthplace' of SD and all that. :)

Since the one-off head I have is pureskin UV protect the absolute earliest it can possibly be from is late 2005, and I don't think that one-offs got UV protect until 2006 some time... so if other one-offs were getting a numbering system from 2005 already, that would support my theory that they only use it for events and special locations. :) Ahh, I like theorizing! :clap

[Janne]

That sounds likely, Karhys! The ONEOFFMODEL designation could be for the many One-Offs made to grace the various Sumikas...?

[carawen]

I just checked the one off Michele I got at the June NY Dolpa as well, and her headplate number is TO 0087.

[Lone Sheep]

I was actually wondering about this! I've seen the 'one-off' plates and wondered why mine didn't have one.

I also have the "TO" kind of numbering. The plate has "TO 0031" on my one-off MSD Enn from the first NY tea party. I'm kind of relieved to hear that other people who got their one-offs at tea parties have this same numbering. :)

[Nikittin]

I own two One-Offs: a Michele I got from an LA Tea Party and an F-19 I got off a Yahoo! Japan auction. The Michele's plate says "TO 0015" and the F-19's says "ONE-OFFMODEL." I have to wonder if the F-19 was a Sumika One-Off or what. It's interesting to speculate anyways!

This has certainly been an interesting thread :)

[pake4pleasanton]

I have a one-off, a pirate Enn (MSD Boy) painted by Valico from the first Volks Tea Party in 2005. The headplate says "TO 0006". Maybe Volks just starts numbering from the first tea party. It woudl be intereesting to see the numbers from the LA Dolpa.
Stephanie Y.

[april]

Well, it's good to know that my boy has the right head plate! I can't believe I never really looked at it until now.

[Tenshi]

I have two one-off heads. My first is a white F-24 I got off Y!J earlier this year. The auction mentioned the head was purchased early this year, and he's stamped ONEOFFMODEL. My second is the Cristal from the LA Dolpa and hers says TO 0102. I'd been wondering what the heck Cristal's plate meant, because after getting the F-24 I just assumed all of them were stamped the same.

I think the 24 is a Sumika one-off, so the ONEOFFMODEL is probably the general Sumika stamp.

[fullcircleagain]

Tsukasa from the LA Dolpa last weekend has TO then 0105. Hum, so he would be the 105th one-off offered here in the US then? Interesting.

[Redd Heart]

The Williams from the LA Dolpa has TO 0104, if anyone is curious.

Y'think the TO's may all be US event one-offs only? I don't know about the order part (i.e. would he be the 104th if the Tsukasa was the 105th, etc.) but the thought definitely seems to make sense that they are all US-event oneoffs with their own numbering system.

[LadyCrow]

I'll be going to the LA Dolpa

Lucky you!! :lol

[Kaighn]

Maybe the TO stands for Torrance? As in this One-Off was made for the Torrance Sumika?

[Redd Heart]

Maybe the TO stands for Torrance? As in this One-Off was made for the Torrance Sumika?


I would not be entirely against that idea, since at the moment there is only one US Sumika. It might get a little confusing later for people if another one was opened in say, New York, but at that point I suppose they could start using NY :)

[Lugi-moo]

Do non one-off limiteds have numbers as well? My SwD lucas I think is from the first release at the Jp dolpa in 05(?), and he has the number 22 carved into the resin inside his head....is that the number of his casting or something? I never heard of Volks doing that....

[Redd Heart]

The number carved in the head, if I remember correctly, is just a sculpt number I think, but I've noticed in my Kun that the sculpt number in her head matches her number in FCS, which I find interesting. :)

[Lugi-moo]

I see I see....*nods* OoO

So that means, SwD Lucas was the 22nd headmold they made?

[Merry]

Karhys will definitely have better info on this but I think it's what the headmold was numbered back then...? Now the Kun headmold is number 22 and I'm not sure when it was added to the FCS line-up...or if FCS numbers and LE headmold numbers even have any crossover.

So, in short, it's just a guess. :sweat The number on the headplate itself is what folks are talking about here, I think.

*pre-coffee*

Do non one-off limiteds have numbers as well? My SwD lucas I think is from the first release at the Jp dolpa in 05(?), and he has the number 22 carved into the resin inside his head....is that the number of his casting or something? I never heard of Volks doing that....

[Merry]

Not necessarily. The numbering system is all over the place at this point as old heads are retired and new heads take their place. Since Volks can just as easily look at the sculpt to know which one it is rather than depending on the number inside I don't think they are depending much on the numbering system, except to make it easier for people to order whatever is currently available.

For instance, the FCS headmolds F-16 and F-17 used to be F-28 and F-29....and came out prior to any Lucas release.

I see I see....*nods* OoO

So that means, SwD Lucas was the 22nd headmold they made?

[Lugi-moo]

So what does that mean for a doll that isn't in the FCS system? Like my Sweet dreams lucas?

[Karhys]

I'm sorry, I didn't see the replies to this earlier! :oops

The numbers carved into the headmold sort of don't really have that much correlation to, well, anything that we know of, to be honest. :sweat The FCS headmolds do seem to have their specific numbers carved into their heads, but for LEs... yeah.

Okay, I'm checking my own lot now:

My old F-09 has "SD-F-09", and my new F-03 has "SD-F-03". However my old F-29 has "YX3 II" and my old F-28 has "YX3 III". I remember reading on a Japanese fansite that the old F-28 was a prototype for Lucas/Chris (that they liked so much they added it to FCS) and that that was the reason for the odd number inside its head. I wonder if the same holds true for F-29 (ie, was it a prototype for Cecile?).

Outside of FCS... my Shirou has "13", my Aya has "9", my Kohya has "28", my Cecile the Scarface has "39", and my Reisner has "57". And actually, if you consider these numbers with reference to when they were released, it certainly does seem to show that they're in order. This also would hold true to SwD Lucas being at "22", who was released just a bit before Tohya. (I would imagine Tohya and Kohya both have "28", though I'd love verification of this.) However my Piccolo has either "25" or "26" (it's hard to tell, it's also a bit dirty :oops) which slightly falls outside of this theory, as he was at least a year after Tohya/Kohya.

Hmm, in addition, my Aya is a pureskin version (so an upgrade of the original old resin version) but still has a "9". (The headmold was a very early one, after all!) I wonder if we could utilize this method to discover if, for example, rereleases are the same as originals? Does Shirou After School still have "13"? Does tan Cecile Scarface still have "39"? Will the new Sakaki have the same as the old Sakaki? Heck, I wonder if this method would let us find out if Rose and Bianka are the same as Momoko! ;)

I'm starting to think I should make a page for this at my Volks database! :nod

Would anyone else care to post with the numbers carved into their dolls' headmolds? :D I'd particularly like an After School Shirou for starters... ;)

(Should I split this off into a different thread? This is a whole topic of its own quite distinct from one off numbering..!)

[Janne]

Maybe change the thread title to Volks Numbering...? This is so interesting!
Of course, F27, F28 and F29 were the first "boy" (xy) heads, so that makes sense.
I'll add my numbers sometime today!

Edit: My Afterschool Shirou seems to have a 13 inside his head.

[nena]

Aya is still using the orignal headmold from 2002 -- I had compared the oldskin with my recent pureskin one-off <3

I keep meaning to tell you the remake molds so you can update that they are different on your site. ^^ Here are others I've confirmed --

Shirou After School is a DIFFERENT mold than the original Shirou, I keep forgetting to tell you so you can edit it. ^^ The new Shirou headmold has a magnetic headcap and his face is slightly longer, more refined. I have some comparison photos on my drive somewhere. The mold number match won't always work to see if molds have been updated as the AfterSchool Shirou still has a 13 marked in his head.

The original Nana/Kira/Megu/Sara headmold simply has an "X". The remake mold for the New Makeup line in 2002 is also completely new sculpt is labeled "4" (Hey, maybe "4" for 4 sisters? ;D). I also have comparison photos for this too.

Michael's headmold reads the letters "Michael" ^^ All oldskin versions use this headmold, but the mold was remade for Magical Michael. Someone told me the number inside, but I forgot ^^;

Just about all the early standard/LE oldskin SD/MSDs have been remade, so they could include updated sculpture (for those you need washers to hold the S-hook), and have a place for the Volks plate on the back of the headcap. There's a lot more but I guess I never was interested in those specific molds to find out ^^; But original Nono should be different from the pureskin Nono now, just like new F02 should be different from the original F04 and so on.

I think the numbers don't refer exactly to the age of release -- but likely the order of when they were actually sculpted. We knew Volks has sculpted Sweet Dream Kaede years before her release so her number might be telling if it's around the same as the original Kaede. I'm sure Volks hoards sculpts until the right event comes along to release them. ^^

[Redd Heart]

OK, here's my list

MSD F-15 (Sato FCS Head): Literally has that carved in her head.

SD Kun: 31 (which I realize is not 22 like she is listed. I think I might have mixed up somewhere).

Williams: 52

[Anavel]

My One-off is kinda old, from 2006 I believe. His head plate just says One-Off and the inside says SD F-17 (very plain):sweat

[Lugi-moo]

very interesting...*strokes chin*

[rkold]

OK my MSD Sakura from 2002 (ahhh the old peg system lol) has no # inside her head that I can find. ^_^;

My first release MSD Nagisa is #17

And my first release Kuuta is #32 while Shin is #38. I can't read the # on Mamu and have not checked Yuki yet. I also could check my Heath, but I know a lot of people own Heath and a lot fewer people own the first release MSD Nagisa. :sweat

[Tenshi]

This is an interesting subject :). Here are the contributions I can make.

MSD Pureskin Magie (made in mid-2005): 1
F-24 (Link): SD-F-24
Papi: 37
Cristal: 58
Amakusa: 61

I figured Cristal and Amakusa would be back-to-back, since the only other SD-sized doll released with them at their Dolpa was Sweet Dreams Nono. Yo-SD Tanpopo/Ayumu was released with them too, but they would have the same number, right?

[nena]

Here's my lot :D --

Ian: blank
Yuni: 9
SD10 Mika: 17
Tsukasa: 18
Kasumi: 29
Yuu: 33
Emma: 40
Kurumi: 52
Luna: 56
F-20: SD-F-20

School B: 11
School A: 10 (This is the remake pureskin version, not oldskin original School which is a little different)

Old F08: SD-F-08 (written outside on the back of the head. Cap says 08)
Old Rio: (will confirm once I find the headcap ^^; This is the original not pureskin remake)

Reitenshi: blank
Seitenshi: Each Seitenshi headmold is classified by a letter, A-B-C etc

[Kaighn]

Ok here's my crew...

Sweet Dreams Suzuna: 23
Chinatsu (DP18): 32
Ayumu: 40

Manabu: 28
Kohaku: 19
F-03: F-03
Hewitt (oldskin): 10

F-15: SD-F-15
School A (pureskin): 10
Isao I & II: 29
Kohya: 28
Sweet Dreams Syo: 48
Chris (pureskin White Cat): 12
Yori: 32
Kun: 31

[St. James]

It certainly does look like the carved numbers correspond to the sculpt release order.
My Hewitt v.2 also has the number 10 inside his head
Yukinojo: 42
F-30: SD-F-30 of course. :)

[pake4pleasanton]

My mini SD Enn from the first Dolpa in LA has TO 0006 on the head plate and the greeting date on the certificate is Nov./19/05

I also checked my sei tenshi and there isn't any head plate or number aywhere, same for the rei tenshi.

Stephanie Y

[LindsaysCorner]

I recently won the Anais One-Off at Dolpa NYC 3 and she doesn't have a headplate at all! I found that really odd.

[carawen]

That's really strange. Maybe you should ask Volks about it, because I'm pretty sure she should have a headplate.

[nikita]

I recently won the Anais One-Off at Dolpa NYC 3 and she doesn't have a headplate at all! I found that really odd.

Could you take a picture of the back of the head without the wig and post it here? It's really odd that your One-off came with no head plate!!!