UV Protection on new SD13 bodies.

[Bobster]

On the latest SD13’s the spec’s state the body has UV Protection. I also read some where on the net that the resin has 3 times more UV Protection than previous versions. Are these versions going to yellow or is it too early to know?

Bobby

[Karhys]

The limited edition SDs have had UV protect resin for roughly two years or so. (they started being released in around August 2005.) FCS has had it since September 2006. Volks are only just now introducing it for the standards. (Elena and Mark have it, the rest don't yet.) UV protect is meant to slow the yellowing damage caused by sunlight but I don't think that it will necessarily stop yellowing damage.

I have some of the earliest SD offered in UV protect (Cecile the Scarface, October 2005, Piccolo January 2006) and also one of the most recent (Reisner, June 2007). My Cecile is definitely not as pink as my Reisner, his tone is a little yellower. Not a lot, just a little.

However it's hard for me to say whether that's from him yellowing or whether Reisner is just pinker. Reisner certainly looks more pink to me than I remember the others looking at their arrival time, but I honestly can't say whether that's just me being confused or not - after all, it's been 2 years now. And it's hard to tell from my photos, too. :oops My non-UV protect SD13 (Shirou, head May 2003, body June 2004) is definitely more yellow than my Cecile, and I think that he has turned yellow over time. Luckily his body and his head despite being bought at separate times (I hated the initial Shirou body so upgraded it a year later) have pretty much yellowed to the same degree.

Here are some pics that may help somewhat...

This is my Cecile approximately two days after I got him, so early October 2005. Taken outdoors on an overcast day, which seemed to make him look a bit paler than natural, but these are the only good outdoors pics I have of him from that time:
http://www.crysania.com/cassiel/forums/uvprotect-comp01.jpg

This is my Cecile, same day, with a friend's Momoko. Momoko was released in May 2004 and is pureskin but not UV protect; you can see she's a fair bit yellower than my Cecile already:
http://www.crysania.com/cassiel/forums/uvprotect-comp02.jpg

This is my Cecile in November 2005 with a friend's Heath. Heath was released in May 2005 (I think hers was July or so though as he was a pre-order, so he was made later) and was pureskin but wasn't UV protect. But he was released only a few months before Cecile. As you can see they're pretty similar in colour but Cecile's UV protect seems a little more translucent, I think? This was also outdoors, a little overcast:
http://www.crysania.com/cassiel/forums/uvprotect-comp03.jpg

This is my Cecile and Shirou in very early January 2006. This picture is indoors under fluoro lighting so makes their colour a little off, but you can see that my Shirou is already more yellow than my Cecile:
http://www.crysania.com/cassiel/forums/uvprotect-comp04.jpg

This is my Cecile and my Reisner in July 2007, just after I received my Reisner. The lighting is different (diffused bright sunlight) but you can see that my Cecile is just a little more yellow than my Reisner:
http://www.crysania.com/cassiel/forums/uvprotect-comp05.jpg

Again in July 2007, but on a different day so the lighting was different, but this is my Cecile's head on my Reisner's body.. you can see that in the end the colour is still fairly similar:
http://www.crysania.com/cassiel/forums/uvprotect-comp06.jpg

To give you a good idea of non UV-protect pureskin, here is my Shirou's head on my Reisner's body on the same day. As you can see, he has gotten a LOT more yellow since his arrival:
http://www.crysania.com/cassiel/forums/uvprotect-comp07.jpg

So yeah.. in the end I think that UV protect may be yellowing some, but I don't think it's enough to be a big deal. Whereas I can see that non-UV protect definitely yellows faster.

I hope that helps! I'd also like to hear other people's feedback as I am never good at telling if my dolls are yellowing unless I have really obvious proof. (Like the above Shirou-head-Reisner-body pic. :sweat )

[Raouken]

I think the early UV protection dolls are just less pinky than the newer released ones, I also have a Cecile the Scarface and a friend of mine has an Emma and she is pinkier. However, I'm pretty sure he didn't yellow. I also saw a brand new Christal a few weeks ago and she was about the same color as the Emma. I was looking for pictures but the difference is very hard to spot in a photo +_+

[rkold]

I've heard from people who bought the UV protect spare Yo-hands that they don't quite match the few Yo-SDs that are not UV protect.

Personally, and I don't take my dolls outside that much, I find my UV protect dolls seem a little paler/whiter from the start than my ordinary pureskin/old skin dolls.

[Karhys]

oh, thanks for the further input guys! I like hearing what other people think, too. :)

I just realised I have a friend who has an Emma from the AE (I got her for her at the same time as my Piccolo) who also has a Cristal head on an Amakusa body. (so both from latest Dolpa.) I'll see if I can get her to bring both of them over next time she comes and we can do some further comparing. :D She never really takes them outside at all, either. (Whereas my Cecile has been out a bit. Actually so has my Shirou. Not a lot, but hey, any sunlight makes a difference, right?)

[Em]

oh, thanks for the further input guys! I like hearing what other people think, too. :)

I just realised I have a friend who has an Emma from the AE (I got her for her at the same time as my Piccolo) who also has a Cristal head on an Amakusa body. (so both from latest Dolpa.) I'll see if I can get her to bring both of them over next time she comes and we can do some further comparing. :D She never really takes them outside at all, either. (Whereas my Cecile has been out a bit. Actually so has my Shirou. Not a lot, but hey, any sunlight makes a difference, right?)

That'd be me ;)

I agree with the newer Volks Normal Skin being slightly pinker. It's not hugely noticeble and my oldest Volks doll is white skin so I don't have a great comparison. Basically my Emma, Yo-sd Anne (bought at the same time) & my new Cristal/Amakusa hybrid seem to all be the same colour.

On the flip side my FCS boy bought in...umm '05 (care to help Cass :sweat) seems to have yellowed a bit, I don't think Volks had introduced the UV protect at that stage? Though he's also spent the most time outside!

[Karhys]

That'd be me ;)

I agree with the newer Volks Normal Skin being slightly pinker. It's not hugely noticeble and my oldest Volks doll is white skin so I don't have a great comparison. Basically my Emma, Yo-sd Anne (bought at the same time) & my new Cristal/Amakusa hybrid seem to all be the same colour.

Oh, yeah, and your Anne too! Hey, bring them all over, we'll have a big skintone comparison party. :D

On the flip side my FCS boy bought in...umm '05 (care to help Cass :sweat) seems to have yellowed a bit, I don't think Volks had introduced the UV protect at that stage? Though he's also spent the most time outside!

January 2005. ;) No UV protect at that time, and he's white skin. If you bring him over too, we can compare him to my white skin boy from December 2005, also not UV protect. Too bad we don't have any actual UV protect white skin dolls to compare them too tho. :p I don't think anyone in Sydney does. :( Wait, when did Jay and Loki get their F-26 girls? They're both white skin, right?

(Um, not sure how you're going to bring them all over at once btw.. maybe I'll commandeer the car... and driver... :yey)

[Bobster]

Wow, 2 new post while I was getting this one ready.:)

Thank you all for the great info and photos. A number of the models I like are a bit older and not offered in the current UV version of the resin. Now for the 100,000 yen question: Would you let the UV yellowing be a concern when purchasing an older sculpt or just go ahead and get it regardless of the yellowing potential?

Bobby

[Karhys]

Wow, 2 new post while I was getting this one ready.:)

Whoops, sorry, we get carried away sometimes. ;)

Thank you all for the great info and photos. A number of the models I like are a bit older and not offered in the current UV version of the resin. Now for the 100,000 yen question: Would you let the UV yellowing be a concern when purchasing an older sculpt or just go ahead and get it regardless of the yellowing potential?

I guess this would really end up being a question that would be personal opinion. :) But for me, personally, I wouldn't let it bother me. The only thing that you would have to keep in mind would be that if you bought the head only, you'd probably have to search around for an older body to go with it, because if you bought a newer UV protect body you'd probably have the colour match problem as shown above with my Shirou on my Reisner's body. But aside from that -- I don't think it's a problem unless the yellower tone really bothers you. I don't find that it bothers me at all. In some sense it's kind of nice to have everyone be slightly different colours, sort of like real people. :D And hey, my Shirou may look funny on someone else's body, but he looks great on his own:

http://www.crysania.com/cassiel/lj/semes-newshirts07.jpg

:kisses

[mmsedated]

This may be a off topic... but I love how Shirou's eyes & lips matches! You just gave me an idea for my next doll. :D